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Biography of Robert Welles 8th Baron Willoughby 8th Baron Welles -1470

Paternal Family Tree: Welles

Maternal Family Tree: Maud Francis Countess of Salisbury 1364-1424

Robert Welles 8th Baron Willoughby 8th Baron Welles was born to Richard Welles 7th Baron Welles, Baron Willoughby and Joan Willoughby 7th Baroness Willoughby of Eresby.

Before 13 Feb 1462 [his mother] Joan Willoughby 7th Baroness Willoughby of Eresby (age 37) died. Her son Robert succeeded 8th Baron Willoughby de Eresby.

March 1470 Welles' Rebellion and Battle of Losecoat Field aka Empingham

Before 03 Feb 1470 Robert Welles 8th Baron Willoughby 8th Baron Welles attacked Gainsborough Old Hall, Lincolnshire [Map] home of Thomas Burgh 1st Baron Burgh of Gainsborough (age 39), a senior Yorkist, Edward IV's (age 27) Master of the Horse. It isn't known whether this attack was a consequence of local or national issues. King Edward IV of England summoned Robert's father [his father] Richard Welles 7th Baron Welles, Baron Willoughby (age 42) and uncle-in-law Thomas Dymoke (age 42) (married to [his aunt] Margaret Welles (age 38) sister of Robert Welles 8th Baron Willoughby 8th Baron Welles) to London. Both initially went into Sanctuary, Westminster Abbey [Map] but were pardoned on 03 Mar 1470.

After 03 Mar 1470 Robert Welles 8th Baron Willoughby 8th Baron Welles continued to resist King Edward IV of England (age 27) by raising forces in Lincolnshire. King Edward IV of England travelled north and threatened Robert Welles 8th Baron Willoughby 8th Baron Welles with the execution of his [his father] father (age 42) and Thomas Dymoke (age 42) if Robert persisted in rebellion.

On 12 Mar 1470 King Edward IV of England (age 27) commanded at the Battle of Losecoat Field (Empingham).

Thomas Dymoke (age 42) and [his father] Richard Welles 7th Baron Welles, Baron Willoughby (age 42) were beheaded at Queen's Cross, Stamford before the battle1. His son Robert succeeded 8th Baron Welles.

The name 'Losecoat' not contemporary, and its meaning of men "losing their coats" may have been invented in the 19th Century. The name Losecoat appears to be first used in the 16th Century Hall's and Holinshed's Chronicles.

The 1475 attainder of Richard and Robert Welles refers to the battle having taken place "in a field called 'Hornefeld' in Empyngham",

Note 1. Some sources say on battlefield immediately prior to the battle, some after the batte

On 19 Mar 1470 Robert Welles 8th Baron Willoughby 8th Baron Welles was beheaded at Doncaster [Map]. He was buried at Whitefriars Doncaster [Map]. Baron Welles forfeit. His sister [his sister] Joan succeeded 9th Baroness Willoughby de Eresby. Richard Hastings Baron Willoughby (age 37) by marriage Baron Willoughby de Eresby. He, Hastings, a favourite of King Edward IV of England (age 27), younger brother of Edward's great friend William Hastings 1st Baron Hastings (age 39).

Warkworth's Chronicle. Feb 1470. And in the x. yere1 of Kynge Edwardes regne, in the moneth of Marche, the [his father] Lorde Willowby (age 42), the Lorde Welles his sonne2, Thomas Delalond knyght, and Sere Thomas Dymmoke (age 42) knyght, the Kynges Champyon, droff oute of Lyncolneschyre Sere Thomas à Burghe, a knyght of the Kynges howse, and pullede downe his place, and toke alle his goodes and cataylle that they mighte fynde, and they gaderid alle the comons of the schyre to the nowmbre of xxx. M¹., and cryed "Kynge Herry," and refused Kynge Edwarde. And the Duke of Clarence and the Earl of Warwick (age 41) causede alle this, lyke as they dyde Robyne of Riddesdale to ryse afore that at Banbury felde. And whenne Kynge Edwarde herde hereof, he made oute his commyssyons, and gaderyd a grete peple of menne, and sent his pardone to the Lorde Wyllowby, and a commaundement that they schuld come to hym, and so he dyd. And whenne the Kynge was sure of hym, he and alle his oste went towarde Lyncolneschyre, the Lord Welles, and alle the othere peple were gaderd togedere, and commawndede Lorde Wyllowby to sende a lettere to hys sonne and to alle the peple that he gaderyde, that they schulde yelde them to hym as to ther sovereyne Lorde, or ellys he made a woue3 that the Lorde Willowby schuld lese his hede; and he wrote and sent his lettere forthe, but therfor they wulde noʒt ceysse; wherfor the Kynge comawndyde the Lorde Wyllowhby hede for to be smytene of, notwithstondynge his pardone.

Note 1. And in the x. yere. It may be remarked that the regnal years of Edward IV. commence on the fourth of March, "quo die Rex Edwardus iiijtus. incepit regnare [On that day King Edward IV began to reign];" -MS. Magnus Rotulus Pipa, 1 Edw. IV, com. Cornub. Cf. MS. Bib. Geo. III. Mus. Brit. 52. fol. 33, rº.

Note 2. The Lorde Welles his sonne. See the Excerpta Historica, p. 282, for the confession of Sir Robert Welles, which throws very considerable light on this history. It appears that the Duke of Clarence (age 20) took a much more active part in the conspiracy than is generally supposed; that the motive which actuated the multitude was chiefly the fear of the King's vengeance; that a servant of Clarence's was in the battle, and afforded Welles considerable assisttance; that when Lord Welles went to London pursuant to the King's commands, he desired his son, in the event of his hearing that he was in danger, to hasten to his assistance with as many followers as possible; that the real object of the rebellion was to place the crown on Clarence's head; and that both Clarence and Warwick had, for some time, been urging Lord Welles, and his son, to continue firm to their cause. See continuation of note below.

Note 3. Woue. So in MS. for vowe.

Chronicle of Robert Fabyan. 12 Mar 1470. And in Lyncolnshyre sir Robert Wellys, sone unto the lorde Wellys before put to deth, in this whyle had also assembled a great bende of men, purposyd to gyue the kynge a felde. Of all whiche tydynges whenne the kynge was assertayned, he with his sayde broder the duke spedde hym northwarde, and in that whyle sent to the sayde sir Robert Wellys, wyllyng hym to sende home his people and come to hym, and he shuld haue his grace. But that other answerid, that by lyke promysse his fader was disceyued, and that shulde be his example. But in conclusion, whan the kynge with his power drewe nere unto hym, he toke suche fere that he fledde, and soone after was taken, and with hym sir Thomas Dymmok (age 42), knyght, and other, the whiche were shortly after put to deth.

Before 16 Mar 1475 [his sister] Joan Welles 9th Baroness Willoughby of Eresby died.

Christopher Willoughby 10th Baron Willoughby (age 22) de jure 10th Baron Willoughby de Eresby. Margaret Jenney Baroness Willoughby of Eresby (age 15) by marriage Baroness Willoughby de Eresby.

King Edward IV of England (age 32) had father and son [[his father] Richard Welles 7th Baron Welles, Baron Willoughby and Robert Welles 8th Baron Willoughby 8th Baron Welles] posthumously attainted some five years after the Welles' Rebellion [see Patent Rolls] to ensure Richard Hastings Baron Willoughby (age 42) would continue to enjoy the benefit of the Welles' estates.

Another example of King Edward IV of England being somewhat disingenuous with the legal system to his own advantage. He, Edward was, in effect, disinheriting Christopher Willoughby 10th Baron Willoughby who should have inherited Baron Willoughby de Eresby and [his uncle] John Welles 1st Viscount Welles (age 25) who should have inherited Baron Welles following Joan's death.

Patent Rolls. 16 Mar 1475. Exemplification, at the request of William Broune of Staumford, Westminster. 'marchaunt,' of the tenour of an article in an act (English) of attaint in the Parliament summoned at Westminster on 6 October, 12 Edward IV. and continued by divers prorogations to 23 January, 14 Edward IV. ordaining that whereas [his father] Richard Welles late of Hellowe, co. Lincoln, knight, caused Robert Welles late of Hellowe, knight, and Thomas Delalaunde late of Horblyng, co. Lincoln, knight, and others to assemble together against the king and they made war against the king on 12 March, 10 Edward IV. in a field called 'Hornefeld' in Empyngham, co. Rutland, the said Richard, Robert and Thomas be convicted of high treason and forfeit all the possessions which they had on the said 12 March except the manors of Lilleford, co. Northampton, and Hokyngton, co. Cambridge, whereof Thomas FitzWilliam the elder and Thomas FltzWilliam the younger were seised to the same time that they made estate thereof to [his sister] Jahne late the wife of Richard Hastynges (age 42), knight, and heirs in fee and after the said Richard and Jahne sold the same manors to the said William and of the same levied a fine to the use of him and his heirs. [Rolls of Parliament, VI. 144.]

In Feb 1470 Robert Welles 8th Baron Willoughby 8th Baron Welles attacked at Gainsborough Old Hall, Lincolnshire [Map].

Before 19 Mar 1470 Robert Welles 8th Baron Willoughby 8th Baron Welles and Elizabeth Bourchier Baroness Willoughby of Eresby were married. She by marriage Baroness Willoughby de Eresby. He a great x 5 grandson of King Edward I of England. She a great x 2 granddaughter of King Edward III of England.

Before 02 Oct 1470 [his former wife] Elizabeth Bourchier Baroness Willoughby of Eresby died. She was buried at Whitefriars Doncaster [Map].

Around 1485 [his uncle] John Welles 1st Viscount Welles (age 35) succeeded 10th Baron Welles when the attainders on [his father] Richard Welles 7th Baron Welles, Baron Willoughby and Robert Welles 8th Baron Willoughby 8th Baron Welles were reversed. See Patent Rolls.

Royal Ancestors of Robert Welles 8th Baron Willoughby 8th Baron Welles -1470

Kings Wessex: Great x 13 Grand Son of King Edmund "Ironside" I of England

Kings Gwynedd: Great x 10 Grand Son of Owain "Great" King Gwynedd

Kings Seisyllwg: Great x 16 Grand Son of Hywel "Dda aka Good" King Seisyllwg King Deheubarth

Kings Powys: Great x 11 Grand Son of Maredudd ap Bleddyn King Powys

Kings England: Great x 5 Grand Son of King Edward I of England

Kings Scotland: Great x 12 Grand Son of King Duncan I of Scotland

Kings Franks: Great x 9 Grand Son of Louis VII King Franks

Kings France: Great x 12 Grand Son of Robert "Pious" II King France

Kings Duke Aquitaine: Great x 17 Grand Son of Ranulf I Duke Aquitaine

Ancestors of Robert Welles 8th Baron Willoughby 8th Baron Welles -1470

Great x 4 Grandfather: Adam Welles 3rd Baron Welles

Great x 3 Grandfather: John Welles 4th Baron Welles

Great x 4 Grandmother: Margaret Bardolf Baroness Welles

Great x 2 Grandfather: John Welles 5th Baron Welles 6 x Great Grand Son of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England

Great x 4 Grandfather: William Ros 2nd Baron Ros Helmsley

Great x 3 Grandmother: Maud Ros Baroness Welles 5 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England

Great x 4 Grandmother: Margery Badlesmere Baroness Ros of Helmsley 4 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England

Great x 1 Grandfather: Eudo Welles 3 x Great Grand Son of King Edward I of England

Great x 4 Grandfather: John Mowbray 3rd Baron Mowbray 4 x Great Grand Son of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England

Great x 3 Grandfather: John Mowbray 4th Baron Mowbray Baron Segrave 2 x Great Grand Son of King Henry III of England

Great x 4 Grandmother: Joan Plantagenet Baroness Mowbray Great Grand Daughter of King Henry III of England

Great x 2 Grandmother: Eleanor Mowbray Countess Rockingham 2 x Great Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England

Great x 4 Grandfather: John Segrave 4th Baron Segrave 5 x Great Grand Son of King John of England

Great x 3 Grandmother: Elizabeth Segrave 5th Baroness Segrave Baroness Mowbray Great Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England

Great x 4 Grandmother: Margaret Plantagenet 2nd Countess Norfolk Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England

GrandFather: Lionel Welles 6th Baron Welles 4 x Great Grand Son of King Edward I of England

Great x 4 Grandfather: Ralph Greystoke 1st Baron Greystoke

Great x 3 Grandfather: William Greystoke 2nd Baron Greystoke 4 x Great Grand Son of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England

Great x 4 Grandmother: Alice Audley Baroness Greystoke and Neville 3 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England

Great x 2 Grandfather: Ralph Greystoke 3rd Baron Greystoke 5 x Great Grand Son of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England

Great x 4 Grandfather: Henry Fitzhenry of Ravensworth

Great x 3 Grandmother: Joan Fitzhenry Baroness Greystoke

Great x 1 Grandmother: Maud Greystoke 6 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England

Great x 4 Grandfather: Robert Clifford 3rd Baron Clifford 4 x Great Grand Son of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England

Great x 3 Grandfather: Roger Clifford 5th Baron Clifford 4 x Great Grand Son of King John of England

Great x 4 Grandmother: Isabel Berkeley Baroness Clifford Baroness Musgrave 3 x Great Grand Daughter of King John of England

Great x 2 Grandmother: Catherine Clifford Baroness Greystoke 5 x Great Grand Daughter of King John of England

Great x 4 Grandfather: Thomas Beauchamp 11th Earl Warwick 6 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 3 Grandmother: Maud Beauchamp Baroness Clifford 5 x Great Grand Daughter of King John of England

Great x 4 Grandmother: Katherine Mortimer Countess Warwick 4 x Great Grand Daughter of King John of England

Father: Richard Welles 7th Baron Welles, Baron Willoughby 5 x Great Grand Son of King Edward I of England

Great x 3 Grandfather: William Waterton of Waterton in Lincolnshire

Great x 2 Grandfather: John Waterton

Great x 4 Grandfather: Roger Newmarch of Womersley

Great x 3 Grandmother: Elizabeth Newmarch

Great x 1 Grandfather: Robert Waterton

Great x 4 Grandfather: Piers Mauley

Great x 3 Grandfather: Piers Mauley

Great x 2 Grandmother: Joan Mauley

Great x 4 Grandfather: Peter Bruce

Great x 3 Grandmother: Joan Bruce

Great x 4 Grandmother: Hawise Lancaster

GrandMother: Joan or Cecily Waterton

Great x 2 Grandfather: Robert Fleming of Woodhall

Great x 1 Grandmother: Cecily Fleming

Robert Welles 8th Baron Willoughby 8th Baron Welles 5 x Great Grand Son of King Edward I of England

Great x 4 Grandfather: John Willoughby 2nd Baron Willoughby 7 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 3 Grandfather: John Willoughby 3rd Baron Willoughby 8 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 4 Grandmother: Joan Roscelyn Baroness Willoughby and Latimer

Great x 2 Grandfather: Robert Willoughby 4th Baron Willoughby 9 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 4 Grandfather: Robert Ufford 1st Earl Suffolk

Great x 3 Grandmother: Cecily Ufford Baroness Willoughby of Eresby

Great x 4 Grandmother: Margaret Norwich Countess Suffolk

Great x 1 Grandfather: William Willoughby 5th Baron Willoughby 7 x Great Grand Son of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England

Great x 4 Grandfather: Eudo Zouche 6 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 3 Grandfather: William Zouche 2nd Baron Zouche Harringworth 7 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 2 Grandmother: Margery Zouche Baroness Willoughby of Eresby 6 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England

Great x 4 Grandfather: William Ros 2nd Baron Ros Helmsley

Great x 3 Grandmother: Elizabeth Ros Baroness Zouche Harringworth 5 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England

Great x 4 Grandmother: Margery Badlesmere Baroness Ros of Helmsley 4 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry "Curtmantle" II of England

GrandFather: Robert Willoughby 6th Baron Willoughby 7 x Great Grand Son of King John of England

Great x 4 Grandfather: John Strange 2nd Baron Strange Knockin 6 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 3 Grandfather: Roger Strange 4th Baron Strange Knockin 7 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 4 Grandmother: Isolde Chaworth Baroness Strange Knockin

Great x 2 Grandfather: Roger Strange 5th Baron Strange Knockin 8 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 4 Grandfather: Oliver Ightham

Great x 3 Grandmother: Joan Ightham Baroness Strange Knockin 7 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 4 Grandmother: Elizabeth Zouche 6 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 1 Grandmother: Lucy Strange Baroness Willoughby Eresby 6 x Great Grand Daughter of King John of England

Great x 4 Grandfather: Richard Fitzalan 1st or 8th Earl of Arundel 3 x Great Grand Son of King John of England

Great x 3 Grandfather: Edmund Fitzalan 2nd or 9th Earl of Arundel 4 x Great Grand Son of King John of England

Great x 4 Grandmother: Alice Saluzzo Countess Arundel 6 x Great Grand Daughter of King William "Conqueror" I of England

Great x 2 Grandmother: Aline Fitzalan Baroness Strange Knockin 5 x Great Grand Daughter of King John of England

Great x 4 Grandfather: William Warenne

Great x 3 Grandmother: Alice Warenne Countess Arundel

Great x 4 Grandmother: Joan Vere

Mother: Joan Willoughby 7th Baroness Willoughby of Eresby 4 x Great Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England

Great x 2 Grandfather: John Montagu 1st Baron Montagu, Baron Monthermer

Great x 4 Grandfather: William Grandison 1st Baron Grandison

Great x 3 Grandmother: Catherine Grandison Countess of Salisbury

Great x 4 Grandmother: Sibylla Tregoz Baroness Grandison

Great x 1 Grandfather: John Montagu 3rd Earl Salisbury 2 x Great Grand Son of King Edward I of England

Great x 3 Grandfather: Thomas Monthermer 2nd Baron Monthermer Grand Son of King Edward I of England

Great x 4 Grandmother: Joan of Acre Countess Gloucester and Hertford Daughter of King Edward I of England

Great x 2 Grandmother: Margaret Monthermer Baroness Montagu 3rd Baroness Monthermer Great Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England

Great x 4 Grandfather: Peter Brewes Count Flanders

Great x 3 Grandmother: Margaret Brewes Baroness Monthermer

GrandMother: Elizabeth Montagu Baroness Willoughby Eresby 3 x Great Grand Daughter of King Edward I of England

Great x 2 Grandfather: Adam Francis

Great x 1 Grandmother: Maud Francis Countess of Salisbury