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Biography of William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu 1093-1172

Paternal Family Tree: Montgomery

Before 9th September 1087 [his father] Robert II Belleme 2nd Count Ponthieu 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury (age 31) and [his mother] Agnes Ponthieu Countess Ponthieu and Shrewsbury (age 7) were married. The difference in their ages was 24 years. She the daughter of [his grandfather] Guy aka Wido I Count of Ponthieu (age 67). He the son of [his grandfather] Roger "The Great" Montgomery 1st Earl of Shrewsbury and [his grandmother] Mabel de Bellême.

Around 1093 William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu was born to [his father] Robert II Belleme 2nd Count Ponthieu 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury (age 37) and [his mother] Agnes Ponthieu Countess Ponthieu and Shrewsbury (age 13).

In 1094 [his grandfather] Roger "The Great" Montgomery 1st Earl of Shrewsbury died. His son [his uncle] Hugh (age 36) succeeded 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury 1C 1071. His son [his father] Robert (age 38) succeeded 2nd Count Ponthieu. [his mother] Agnes Ponthieu Countess Ponthieu and Shrewsbury (age 14) by marriage Countess Ponthieu.

In June 1095 Bertrand Count of Toulouse and [his future wife] Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu (age 15) were married. She the daughter of Odo "Red" I Duke Burgundy (age 37) and Sybilla Ivrea Duchess Burgundy (age 30). He the son of Raymond Rouerge IV Count Toulouse (age 54) and Elvira Alfónsez Jiménez Queen Consort Sicily (age 15).

On 13th October 1100 [his grandfather] Guy aka Wido I Count of Ponthieu (age 80) died. His daughter [his mother] Agnes (age 20) succeeded I Countess Ponthieu. [his father] Robert II Belleme 2nd Count Ponthieu 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury (age 44) by marriage Count Ponthieu.

After 1105 [his mother] Agnes Ponthieu Countess Ponthieu and Shrewsbury (deceased) died. Her son William (age 12) succeeded Count Ponthieu.

Around 1115 William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu (age 22) and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu (age 35) were married. She by marriage Countess Ponthieu. She the daughter of Odo "Red" I Duke Burgundy and Sybilla Ivrea Duchess Burgundy. He the son of Robert II Belleme 2nd Count Ponthieu 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury (age 59) and Agnes Ponthieu Countess Ponthieu and Shrewsbury. They were fourth cousin once removed.

Before 1116 [his brother-in-law] Hugh II Duke Burgundy (age 31) and Felicia Matilda Mayenne Duchess Burgundy were married. She by marriage Duchess Burgundy. He the son of Odo "Red" I Duke Burgundy and Sybilla Ivrea Duchess Burgundy.

The History of William Marshal, Earl of Chepstow and Pembroke, Regent of England. Book 1 of 2, Lines 1-10152.

The History of William Marshal was commissioned by his son shortly after William’s death in 1219 to celebrate the Marshal’s remarkable life; it is an authentic, contemporary voice. The manuscript was discovered in 1861 by French historian Paul Meyer. Meyer published the manuscript in its original Anglo-French in 1891 in two books. This book is a line by line translation of the first of Meyer’s books; lines 1-10152. Book 1 of the History begins in 1139 and ends in 1194. It describes the events of the Anarchy, the role of William’s father John, John’s marriages, William’s childhood, his role as a hostage at the siege of Newbury, his injury and imprisonment in Poitou where he met Eleanor of Aquitaine and his life as a knight errant. It continues with the accusation against him of an improper relationship with Margaret, wife of Henry the Young King, his exile, and return, the death of Henry the Young King, the rebellion of Richard, the future King Richard I, war with France, the death of King Henry II, and the capture of King Richard, and the rebellion of John, the future King John. It ends with the release of King Richard and the death of John Marshal.

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Anglo-Saxon Chronicle. 1120. This year were reconciled the King of England (age 52) and the King of France (age 38); and after their reconciliation all the King Henry's own men accorded with him in Normandy, as well as the Earl of Flanders (age 36) and the Earl of Ponthieu (age 27). From this time forward the King Henry settled his castles and his land in Normandy [Map] after his will; and so before Advent came to this land.

Around 1120 [his son] Guy Montgomery II Count Ponthieu was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu (age 27) and [his wife] Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu (age 40). He married before 1147 Ida Countess Ponthieu and had issue.

After 1130 [his father] Robert II Belleme 2nd Count Ponthieu 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury (deceased) died. His son William (age 37) succeeded III Count Ponthieu.

Before 1137 [his son-in-law] William Warenne 3rd Earl of Surrey (age 17) and [his daughter] Adela Montgomery Countess of Salisbury and Surrey were married. She the daughter of William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu (age 43) and [his wife] Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu (age 56). He the son of William Warenne 2nd Earl of Surrey and Elizabeth Capet Countess Leicester, Meulan and Surrey. They were third cousin once removed.

On 28th February 1141 [his wife] Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu (age 61) died.

Before 1147 [his son] Guy Montgomery II Count Ponthieu (age 26) and [his daughter-in-law] Ida Countess Ponthieu were married. She by marriage Countess Ponthieu. He the son of William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu (age 53) and [his former wife] Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

On 25th December 1147 [his son] Guy Montgomery II Count Ponthieu (age 27) died of disease whilst on Crusade. His son [his grandson] John (age 7) succeeded I Count Ponthieu.

Before 1149 [his daughter] Philippa Montgomery died.

Deeds of King Henry V

Henrici Quinti, Angliæ Regis, Gesta, is a first-hand account of the Agincourt Campaign, and subsequent events to his death in 1422. The author of the first part was a Chaplain in King Henry's retinue who was present from King Henry's departure at Southampton in 1415, at the siege of Harfleur, the battle of Agincourt, and the celebrations on King Henry's return to London. The second part, by another writer, relates the events that took place including the negotiations at Troye, Henry's marriage and his death in 1422.

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In 1149 [his son-in-law] Patrick of Salisbury 1st Earl Salisbury (age 27) and [his daughter] Adela Montgomery Countess of Salisbury and Surrey were married. She by marriage Countess Salisbury. She the daughter of William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu (age 56) and [his former wife] Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

After 1166 [his son] William Montgomery died.

After 1171 [his son] Robert Montgomery died.

In 1172 William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu (age 79) died.

The Deeds of the Dukes of Normandy. Now this William1 was the son of Robert of Bellême, born of the daughter of Guy, Count of Ponthieu. This Robert, because of his extreme cruelty, was hated both by the king himself and by many other wise men. When he was at last placed in chains, in which he also died, the most noble King Henry seized his stronghold called Bellême and gave it to Rotrou, Count of Perche, his kinsman2. Although the region of Bellême did not belong to the duchy of Normandy but to the kingdom of Franks, King Philip of the Franks had long before granted, or as some say sold, the lordship of that region to his cousin William the Elder, King of the English and Duke of the Normans.

Fuit autem hic Willelmus filius Roberti de Bellismo, natus ex filia Widonis comitis Pontivi. Qui Robertus ob nimiam crudelitatem ipsi regi et cæteris multis sapientibus viris exosus habebatur. Ipso denique in vinculis posito, in quibus et defecit, rex Henricus nobilissimus oppidum ejusdem nomine Bellismum cepit et illud Rotroco comiti Perticenci genere suo dedit. Licet pagus Bellis mensis non ad ducatum Northmanniæ pertineret, sed ad regnum Francorum, dederat tamen dominium ejusdem pagi, vel, ut quidam dicunt, vendiderat dudum Philippus rex Francorum cognato suo Willelmo seniori regi Anglorum et duci Northmannorum.

Note 1. William Talvas, around 1093-1171, III Count of Ponthieu, son of Robert of Bellême, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury, and Agnes of Ponthieu, daughter of Guy aka Wido, I Count of Ponthieu.

Note 2. Routrou, 1080-1144, known as 'The Great', Count of Perche, married Matilda, illegitimate daughter of King Henry I.

[his daughter] Clemence Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

[his son] Robert Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

[his son] John Montgomery I Count Alençon was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu. He married before 1185 his fourth cousin once removed Beatrix of Maine and had issue.

[his son] William Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

The History of William Marshal, Earl of Chepstow and Pembroke, Regent of England. Book 1 of 2, Lines 1-10152.

The History of William Marshal was commissioned by his son shortly after William’s death in 1219 to celebrate the Marshal’s remarkable life; it is an authentic, contemporary voice. The manuscript was discovered in 1861 by French historian Paul Meyer. Meyer published the manuscript in its original Anglo-French in 1891 in two books. This book is a line by line translation of the first of Meyer’s books; lines 1-10152. Book 1 of the History begins in 1139 and ends in 1194. It describes the events of the Anarchy, the role of William’s father John, John’s marriages, William’s childhood, his role as a hostage at the siege of Newbury, his injury and imprisonment in Poitou where he met Eleanor of Aquitaine and his life as a knight errant. It continues with the accusation against him of an improper relationship with Margaret, wife of Henry the Young King, his exile, and return, the death of Henry the Young King, the rebellion of Richard, the future King Richard I, war with France, the death of King Henry II, and the capture of King Richard, and the rebellion of John, the future King John. It ends with the release of King Richard and the death of John Marshal.

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[his son] Robert Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

[his daughter] Mabile Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

[his son] William Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

[his daughter] Adela Montgomery Countess of Salisbury and Surrey was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu. She married (1) before 1137 her third cousin once removed William Warenne 3rd Earl of Surrey, son of William Warenne 2nd Earl of Surrey and Elizabeth Capet Countess Leicester, Meulan and Surrey, and had issue (2) 1149 Patrick of Salisbury 1st Earl Salisbury, son of Walter of Salisbury 2nd Baron Chitterne and Sybilla Chaworth Baroness Chitterne, and had issue.

[his daughter] Philippa Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

[his son] Enguerrand Montgomery was born to William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu and Helie Burgundy Countess Ponthieu.

Royal Ancestors of William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu 1093-1172

Kings Franks: Great x 11 Grand Son of Charles "Charlemagne aka Great" King of the Franks King Lombardy Holy Roman Emperor

Kings France: Great x 4 Grand Son of Hugh I King of the Franks

Kings Duke Aquitaine: Great x 8 Grand Son of Ranulf I Duke Aquitaine

Royal Descendants of William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu 1093-1172
Number after indicates the number of unique routes of descent. Descendants of Kings and Queens not included.

Agnes de la Marck Queen Consort Navarre [3]

Joan Dammartin Queen Consort Castile and Leon [1]

Maria of Brabant Queen Consort France [1]

King Edward I of Scotland [1]

Margaret of Burgundy Queen Consort France [1]

Joan "Lame" Burgundy Queen Consort France [1]

King Robert II of Scotland [1]

Joanna Bourbon Queen Consort France [1]

Blanche Bourbon Queen Consort Castile [1]

Martha Armagnac Queen Consort Aragon [1]

Yolande of Bar Queen Consort Aragon [3]

King Richard II of England [1]

King Louis of Naples [1]

King Henry V of England [3]

Philippa Lancaster Queen Consort Denmark [3]

Joan Beaufort Queen Consort Scotland [4]

Jacquetta of Luxemburg Duchess Bedford [1]

Mary of Guelders Queen Consort Scotland [3]

Queen Charlotte of Savoy [3]

King Edward IV of England [11]

King Richard III of England [11]

Anne Neville Queen Consort England [15]

King Henry VII of England and Ireland [5]

Louis XII King France [3]

Jean III King Navarre [3]

Bianca Maria Sforza Holy Roman Empress [3]

Anne of Brittany Queen Consort France [2]

Philip "Handsome Fair" King Castile [6]

Germaine Foix Queen Consort Aragon [3]

Marguerite Valois Orléans Queen Consort Navarre [7]

King Francis I of France [7]

Queen Anne Boleyn of England [15]

Queen Jane Seymour [18]

Catherine Parr Queen Consort England [23]

Anne of Cleves Queen Consort England [6]

Mary of Guise Queen Consort Scotland [17]

Antoine King Navarre [14]

Catherine Medici Queen Consort France [3]

Queen Catherine Howard of England [12]

Maximilian Habsburg Spain II Holy Roman Emperor [6]

Jane Grey I Queen England and Ireland [30]

Louis VI Elector Palatine [3]

Louise Lorraine Queen Consort France [8]

King James I of England and Ireland and VI of Scotland [2]

Maximilian "The Great" Wittelsbach I Duke Bavaria I Elector Bavaria [19]

Maria Anna Wittelsbach Holy Roman Empress [19]

Marie de Medici Queen Consort France [6]

Electress Louise Juliana of the Palatine Rhine [5]

Ferdinand of Spain II Holy Roman Emperor [16]

George Wharton [187]

Margaret of Austria Queen Consort Spain [16]

Anna of Austria Holy Roman Empress [17]

John George Wettin Elector Saxony [12]

Frederick William "Great Elector" Hohenzollern Elector Brandenburg [12]

Eleonora Gonzaga Queen Consort Bohemia [26]

Maria Leopoldine Habsburg Spain Queen Consort Bohemia [16]

Hedwig Eleonora Queen Consort Sweden [12]

Marie Françoise Élisabeth of Savoy Queen Consort of Portugal [22]

Charlotte Amalie Hesse-Kassel Queen Consort Denmark and Norway [12]

Victor Amadeus King Sardinia [26]

Louise of Mecklenburg Güstrow Queen Consort Denmark and Norway [12]

Maria Anna Neuburg Queen Consort Spain [24]

Frederick I King Sweden [36]

Joseph I Holy Roman Emperor [24]

Charles Habsburg Spain VI Holy Roman Emperor [24]

Francis I Holy Roman Emperor [9]

Adolph Frederick King Sweden [12]

Elisabeth Therese Lorraine Queen Consort Sardinia [9]

President George Washington [8]

King George III of Great Britain and Ireland [24]

William Elector of Hesse [36]

Charlotte Mecklenburg Strelitz Queen Consort England [12]

Caroline Matilda Hanover Queen Consort Denmark and Norway [24]

Marie Sophie Hesse-Kassel Queen Consort Denmark and Norway [36]

Caroline of Brunswick Queen Consort England [24]

Frederick William III King Prussia [12]

Frederica Mecklenburg Strelitz Queen Consort Hanover [24]

Queen Fredrika Dorotea Vilhelmina [24]

King Christian I of Norway and VIII of Denmark [36]

Frederick William IV King Prussia [24]

William I King Prussia [24]

Frederick VII King of Denmark [60]

Queen Louise Hesse-Kassel of Denmark [72]

King Christian IX of Denmark [36]

Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom [48]

Queen Sophia of Sweden and Norway [60]

Victoria Empress Germany Queen Consort Prussia [132]

King Edward VII of the United Kingdom [132]

Maria Christina of Austria Queen Consort Spain [36]

Brigadier-General Charles Fitz-Clarence [729]

Victoria Mary Teck Queen Consort England [72]

Frederick Charles I King Finland [72]

Constantine I King Greece [36]

Alexandrine Mecklenburg-Schwerin Queen Consort Denmark [96]

Victoria Eugénie Mountbatten Queen Consort Spain [168]

Louise Mountbatten Queen Consort Sweden [204]

Ingrid Bernadotte Queen Consort Denmark [156]

Philip Mountbatten Duke Edinburgh [240]

Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom [2981]

Carl XVI King Sweden [324]

Queen Consort Camilla Shand [1017]

Diana Spencer Princess Wales [8890]

Catherine Middleton Princess of Wales [30]

Ancestors of William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu 1093-1172

Father: Robert II Belleme 2nd Count Ponthieu 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury

Great x 3 Grandfather: Yves Belleme

Great x 2 Grandfather: William "Princeps" Belleme

Great x 3 Grandmother: Godeheut Unknown

Great x 1 Grandfather: William "Talvas" Belleme

Great x 3 Grandfather: Arnulf de Ganelon

Great x 2 Grandmother: Mathilde Condé Sur Noireau

GrandMother: Mabel de Bellême

Great x 2 Grandfather: Arnulf

Great x 1 Grandmother: Hildeburg

William "Talvas" Montgomery III Count Ponthieu

Great x 3 Grandfather: Hugh I Count Ponthieu

Great x 2 Grandfather: Enguerrand I Count Ponthieu

Great x 4 Grandfather: Hugh I King of the Franks

Great x 3 Grandmother: Gisela Capet Countess Ponthieu

Great x 1 Grandfather: Hugh II Count Ponthieu

Great x 3 Grandfather: Arnulf Gerulfing Count Holland

Great x 2 Grandmother: Adelaide Gerulfing Countess Ponthieu

GrandFather: Guy aka Wido I Count of Ponthieu

Great x 1 Grandmother: Bertha Aumale Countess Aumale and Ponthieu

Mother: Agnes Ponthieu Countess Ponthieu and Shrewsbury